Ch 7 A Relatively Small Universe

<body topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0> <table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0><tr> <td valign="top" height=90 BGCOLOR="#006699" TEXT="#080000" bgproperties="fixed" background="02c285a1erlcgo.png"> <div> <FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#FFCC66" FACE="Arial" ><B>The Geocentric Bible </B></FONT><B>    </B><B> |     </B><A HREF="index.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="The Geocentric Bible "><U><B>home</B></U></A></div> <div> <A HREF="id17.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Preface"><U>Preface</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id18.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch1Scripture"><U>Ch1-Scripture</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id19.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 2 Evidence"><U>Ch 2 Evidence</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id21.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 3 First Second of Creation"><U>Ch 3 First Second of Creation</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id22.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 4 The Revolving Heaven"><U>Ch 4 The Revolving Heaven</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id23.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 5 Density Center of Universe"><U>Ch 5 Density & Center of Universe</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id24.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 6 Preserving"><U>Ch 6 Preserving</U></A>   |   <B>Ch 7 A Relatively Small Universe</B>   |   <A HREF="id29.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 8 Lesser"><U>Ch 8 Lesser</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id31.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 9 Proof"><U>Ch 9 Proof</U></A>   |   <A HREF="id26.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Ch 10 Links Contact Us"><U>Ch 10 Links - Contact Us</U></A></div> <div> </div> </td> </tr><tr> <td valign="top" height=390 BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#080000"> <div> <I>Ch 7 A Relatively Small Universe</I></div> <div> In Genesis 1:1, God came in spoken form (Psalms 33:6, 9)</div> <div> Then He came in human form, Jesus (John 1:14)</div> <div> And then, He came in written form (John 16:13) (KJV)</div> <bR> <div> Let's refer again to Isaiah 34:16, “none (no verse) shall want her mate." Every verse in scripture is supported or made clear by another verse. Isaiah 25:7 says, “…and the veil that is spread over all nations.” A veil is the same as a shield. There definitely is something between the stars and the earth.</div> <bR> <div>           FRAME</div> <div>      Next, what does scripture say about a `frame'?  "God...set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south" (Ezekiel 40:2).  Ezekiel is on a mountain looking at the city.  The mountain is the frame of reference.  In the case of the universe, the earth is the frame of reference.  The law heliocentrism demands that we assign a near-infinite distance to the stars, which is the opposite from what God is telling us.</div> <div> “For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light” (Isaiah 13:10).  Constellations are dark.  In reference to what?  The earth!  Constellations, groups of stars or galaxies, are part of the solar system with the earth at the center.</div> <div> Who has caused the confusion about the size of the universe?  "Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?" (Psalms 94:20)  The throne of iniquity is Satan's, "I will exalt my throne" (Isaiah 14:13).  Satan has caused the secular world to believe that frames expand.  The size of the universe is very important.</div> <div> Isaiah 29:16 says, “Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay…or shall the thing <U>framed</U> say of him that framed it…”  This verse explains Isaiah 24:1, which refers to a one-time rotation of the earth (See Joshua's Long Day in the Revolving Heaven article).  This one time rotation of the earth is in relation to the firmament or universe.  So God framed the universe and frames do not expand.  The universe cannot be expanding. </div> <div> Hebrews 11:3 says, “the world<U>s</U> were framed by the word of God…”  Every `jot' (Matt. 5:18), letter and word are important.  To even begin to understand the firmament there must be, at least, many other worlds or universes.  So, if God framed the `worlds', he certainly framed the `world' or our universe.  The footnote says that `worlds' mean `ages.'  This is incorrect because ages refer to time in eternity, but Rev. 10:6 says there will be “Time no longer.” Time or ages does not exist in eternity.  The other three scriptures that have the word `ages' refer to time in this 7000+ year period on the earth.  So `worlds' means world<U>s</U> or universes, not ages. </div> <div> (From the Biblical Astronomer, No. 83, p.19)  </div> <div>      <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Times New Roman" >In a recent internet discussion group, Dr. Arnold Sikkema, a physicist from the university of Florida states "...no physicist I know says that the earth in any absolute sense travels around the sun.  (Sikkema A., "Absolute Frame," REFNET Geocentricity Study Group, 24 Jul 1997).  Science today does not claim that there is an absolute reference frame in which the earth is moving."  Scripture looks at things "In the earth's reference frame."  'Frame of reference' means context or the place where a person is located.  The Bible deals with truth and absolutes, so 'geocentric' implications cannot apply to an arbitrary frame of reference.</FONT></div> <div> "...God...set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south." (Ezek 40:2).  The frame of reference is Ezekiel on a mountain looking at the city, which shows that a 'frame of reference' is a Biblical term. </div> <bR> <div>      <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#000000" FACE="Times New Roman" >The earth is the moral center of all that God has done in the universe.  It was here that God became a man and later died for the sins of the world.  The same God that came to the moral center is the same God that created the physical universe, which shows that the earth really is in the center of the universe.  There is no need for the earth to spin in a corner of the universe.</FONT></div> <bR> <div>                GOD'S OFFER</div> <div> “Ask thee a sign of the Lord, thy God, ask it either in the depth, or in the height above” (Isaiah 7:11).  The word `sign' has about a dozen meanings two of which apply here: (1) it refers to motion, or (2) something indicating the existence of a thing.  The words `depth' and `height' refers to heaven and earth as Proverbs 25:3 says, “The heaven for height, and the earth for depth.”  God <I>actually</I> offered to explain that the firmament was extremely dense and that it revolves around the earth daily with the universe embedded in it.  </div> <bR> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="0dfdc2e0.png" border=0 width="476" height="302" ALT="TurboCAD 3 Drawing" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> SIZE</div> <div> Did God tell us the size of the universe?  He has told us about ordinary things such as: “Now also when I am old, and grayheaded O God” (Psalms 71:18).  This is common knowledge and accepted by everyone.  Surely, He has told us the ballpark size of the universe.  </div> <div> Nothing bothers those who believe in a young earth when refuting evolution except a large universe.</div> <bR> <div> Psalms 47:9 says, “for the shields of the earth belong unto God.”  The `shields' are the different colors of the rainbow.  These `shields' are between us and the stars.  How do we know this?  1Samuel 17:7 says, “and one bearing a shield went before him.”  A shield is always between men or objects.  Psalms 84:11 says, “For the Lord God is a sun and shield.”  As the sun is between the earth and the stars, so are the shields.  We must rely on scripture to know the distance to the stars.  In John 20:14, Mary did not recognize Jesus even through she looked right at him.  Only when Jesus caused her to see clearly (vs.16), did she know him.  Only with God's word in scripture, can we see the truth clearly.  </div> <bR> <div> If our churches believe in creation, (a young earth) instead of evolution (the earth is billions of years old); this is still not a totally solid foundation.  John Morris is president of the Institute for Creation Research, PO Box 2667, El Cajon, CA 92021 (www.icr.org).  In his newsletter of August 2001, he writes about an `Impact' article, Starlight and Time, which addresses `a serious' problem in creation.  Light travels at 186,000 per second.  Getting distant starlight from stars billions of light years away to the earth in 6000 years (let alone one day) is, and I quote, “we cannot yet claim to have a possible solution to the distant starlight problem.”  It is a `longstanding creationist problem.'  Continuing with a creation magazine, Technical Journal, Answers in Genesis, Volume 15(2) 2001 (PO Box 6302, Acacia Ridge D.C., Qld. 4110. Australia), it addresses the problem of distant starlight by suggesting several solutions: the decreasing speed of light, time dilation in outer space, zero is not zero and finally, calculated and observed time.  </div> <div> <I>Our church is based on this type of reasoning!   </I>The church must have a `sure foundation' (Isaiah 28:16) based on Christ, who is the Word, which includes the words that God wants us to have.  Churches that believe in theistic evolution are not even close to the truth on this question, but for churches that accept a young earth of about 6000 years, this is still not close enough.</div> <div> The Lord knew that mankind would believe the stars are billions of light years away, so Daniel 7:25 says in a negative overtone, “and (mankind would) think to change times and laws.”  The only way to reconcile an extremely large universe with a young universe is to change the time.  This verse eliminates that possibility.  John 16:12 says, “I (Jesus) have many things to say unto you…”  One of the many things Christ had to tell us is the relatively small size of the universe. [“And he (God) changeth the times” (Daniel 2:2l). This verse is in a positive sense.]I mentioned on the cover page that following what the scriptures actually say, stretches the limit of understanding, but we are dealing with God and not man.  </div> <div> Each day of creation week ended with the phrase, `evening and morning.'  Why didn't it say, “morning and evening?'  The Holy Spirit had the words written in this order for a special purpose.  He wanted to tell us something of major importance.  Gen. 1:4 says, “And the <U>evening</U> and the morning were the first day.”  When referring to ordinary days <U>after</U> creation week there are only two verses that contain the phrase `morning and evening' or `evening and morning' and also have the word `day' included.  One is 1 Samuel 17:16: “And the Philistine drew near morning and evening, and presented himself forty days” and the other: “And when they had appointed him a day…from morning till evening” Acts 28:23.  Both say `morning and evening,' just the <U>opposite</U> of creation week.  This emphasizes that the starting time of each day during creation week was the beginning of the evening at noon “Evening, morning, and at noon…” (Pslams 55:17).  Gods' purpose in writing scripture this way was to tell us the relatively small size of the universe!</div> <div> “And that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are <U>double</U> to that which is!…canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?  It is as high as heaven…” (Job 11:6,7,8).  Looking at the stars through a telescope will not give the total complete truth. We cannot find the distance to the stars in the physical universe by this method. However, we can “Search the scriptures” (John 5:39).  Scripture must be considered.  “Thus saith the Lord…which giveth…the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night…If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation… ” (Jeremiah 31:35,6).  These ordinances or laws, apply to equally to both the moon and the stars.  Light from the moon was not created in transit.  Neither was the light from the stars created in transit!  Light from the stars still arrived on schedule in the evening of the fourth day.  As always in the Bible, there is supporting scripture.</div> <div> Isaiah 45:11,12 says, “Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things…concerning the work of my hands command ye me. I have made the earth, and… I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens…” The Lord would not have invited us to ask him what the size of the universe is if he was not going to tell us the answer. Ecc. 7:24 says, “That which is far off, and exceeding deep, who can find it out?”  The only way to know some things is from scripture. 1 Timothy 2:7 says, “the Lord give thee understanding in all things.” `All things' includes the size of the universe.</div> <div> Isaiah 65:24 says, “…before they call, I will answer.” The Lord knew that we need to know the size of the universe and has given us the answer in scripture. Jeremiah 33:3 says, “Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.”</div> <bR> <div> Psalms 19: 9, 10 says, “…the judgements of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they then gold, yea, than much fine gold.” The words of God are better than gold.</div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div>       </div> </td> </tr></table></body>